Please do not prepaint, please do not prepaint, please do not prepaint, please do not prepaint…….

I agree this would be perfect if it’s not pre painted. If it is not prepainted is it going to be fully assembled?

please pre-paint.

ah, the perfect balance og yin and yang.

Congrats/looks amazing! Are we getting any closer to a release date?

I for one would prefer pre-painted.

Absoluetly stunning

The debate between pre-paint or not has been going on for ??2 years. The company has decided to make it lightly painted. So, there is no point of asking for pre-painted anymore. In addition, at 1/1200 scale, all major manufacturers of that scale are pre-painted. With the model lightly painted, it is easy to add in a more complex painting scheme. Has not done it before? I guess you have not been painting long enough.

I think I’m in love…..

Coool!
I really like how all the cannons and little details are neat but not overdetailed.

How long till I can give you some money?

I just peed in my pants a little bit

Darkover: We are going pre-painted. However, it will be a light pre-paint that will allow players to easily modify or completely paint over if they wish to significantly enhance the paint schemes.

Ian hunter: Yes, they will be fully assembled.

As mentioned in the molding thread, this miniature is approximately 13cm in length, 4cm in width (bulging Telsa Trim Tank to bulging Tesla Trim Tank; fins on the back are hair wider than that) and 3.5 cm from keel to the top of the funnels (slightly higher to the top of the antennae). i.e. 1200 scale.

We do not yet have a release date…as soon as I have that, I’ll be shouted it from the crow’s nest!

So for doing a quick conversion its 5.1 inches long by 1.4 inches tall by 1.6 inches wide. Thats going to look amazing. Hopefully my wallet won’t scream to much when I have to buy this. I sent the link to this to a couple of guys and they are screaming for it to come out now.

Although it is not 1/1250, it is close enough. With the light pre-paint, I believe it should match those pre-deadought models from Navis. That will make a nice fit.

uh, winning.

Funny, I know understand why ‘A’ turret looked bizarre: it is in fact identical to ‘X’ and ‘Y’, and ‘B’ is a different model (12” I suppose, 9.2” for the three others).
Anyway, it’s gorgeous. C’est beau ! BEAU !

Wow, very nice! And tally up another one who is glad to hear the miniatures are going to be prepainted. I know many folks like to paint as part of the hobby, but I personally have neither the eye nor skill for it…

What scale will the miniatures be? I recall 1/600 being talked about, but what will the finals be?

EasyEight: 1/1200

I’m So…*sob*…happy!

Love it!! Thanks for rewarding my patience!

unfortunate they will be pre assembled and painted, this looks like such a good mini to have it destryed by a poor paint and assembly job, i hope you will prove me wrong, looks great so far!

I would prefer mine unpainted, but if its a light pre=paint then no biggie. I will most definitely pick this up as soon as its available for pre-order. I agree with Morgan prepaints take all the fun out of it none the less i want them anyway!

What is it made of?? If it is polystyrene (I.E. Dust Tactics) I’m in. If it is vinyl or some other soft material, I’m out. I am interested in it holding its shape.

marc- As of GenCon ’10, Randall had said it would be manufactured the same way as the recent plastic Thor & Loki for BattleTech, and those are hard plastics like you would find in any standard miniatures game.

Been looking forward to these since the first illustrations.
By far my favorite airships of any that are out there from any company.
Looks like my wait will be well rewarded.

I’ve heard they are 1/1200 scale, but since I’m not sure I’ve ever stood on deck of a WWI Battleship, pretty sure I haven’t, and no solid visualization of it, can you tell us how big these models are actuality? like in inches or centimeters?

I like the idea of the boardgame, but of course I’m anticipating putting these on a full wargame table, and wondering about the size.

Laughing Ferret, the Type IVs (like the HML Leviathan pictured) will be about 5″ long. The Type IIIs (armoured sky cruisers and the like) about 4″ long, down to the Type Is at about 2.5″

W.

OK, its official. I was having doubts if I ever was going to see a mini for Leviathans and I have. Can not wait for a release just so I can paint it. Still not a fan of the diffrent turrets though, they should all match in my opinion.

I just discovered this wonderful looking game, and I’m glad to here there’s a boxset coming out soon. The ships remind me of the anime ‘Last Exile’ which I love, so I’ll definitely be getting a box just for the minis.

Small criticism, I think the ships need a slightly higher gun-to-ship ratio. I know these are supposed to represent pre-dreadnought battleships that fly, but gun turrets look cool, and I think they need more (especially in mantlets along the sides). As it is there’s an awful lot of ship to not much gun.

That said, I can’t wait til next month! Where can we pre-order?

Randall…I’ll be by tonight to pick up this miniature, thank you for finding it for me!

Seriously…me likey and want now. (albeit as is, still bummed about prepaint though, however I still want to buy assuming the ‘light prepaint’ is extremely light)

Is this exclusive to the starter box or will it be available as blister also?

Wait…is this the HMS Titanic?

The huge amount of comments warms my heart, guys…

Van Gogh: We’re looking into the turret issues to see if they can be fixed or not.

marc: As pianobar said, it’s the same as the Loki/Thor in the 25th Anniversary Introductory Box Set, or any of the high quality plastic miniatures produced by most table-top miniatures game today (i.e. it’s called HIPS; High-Impact Polystyrene).

Laughing Ferret: Konteradmiral, K.u.K. answered for me (thanks!)

Stormlion1: I had my doubt as well…in the depths of the night, gale blowing, no ground in site…a drift. Now if the test shot would just arrive at my house….

Philius Fox: There were ‘so’ many internal discussions on that as we began to develop the visuals. Ultimately we decided that there is no more hide-bound/tradition-bound organization on the planet than the naval arm of each country. And it’s really only been a handful of years since these ships began development in earnest within the universe…as such they have a ton in common with their water-bound cousins. However, as more time passes, wars spark and new visionaries take the place of the previous generation of navy men, you’ll see the ships start to more fully embrace all that an ‘aerial’ ship has to offer.

ledzepplingunner: Gonna have to put up a crow’s nest and barricade the front door once it arrives… All the miniatures in the Core Box Set will be found outside of the box set…however, those will be “class variants”; i.e. the miniature will be the same, but the Ship Card will be a unique class variant.

Wew…keep the great comments coming…we’re working hard to make Leviathans Shipshape and Bristol Fashion. Thanks!

Looks fantastic! Congrats and thanks so much for sharing these early shots!

Really looking forward to this box set!

Wait, wait, are you saying that the miniatures line will evolve along real world historical advances in ship design? If so, that’s freaking awesome! So glad I just happened to stumble upon this game.

Which brings me to another point. How’s the advertising campaign coming along with this? Eg. I had no idea about this company or game until just recently, yet it’s clearly a very high quality production. It’d be a shame if more people missed out on this game because of lack of exposure, or the game tanks because of not enough sales.

Concept: Wow, very nice! And tally up another one who is glad to hear the miniatures are going to be prepainted. I know many folks like to paint as part of the hobby, but I personally have neither the eye nor skill for it…

*My comments exactly. If I can fob it on someone else, it’ll sit unpainted, and I’ve plenty of that.

Morgan:…this looks like such a good mini to have it destryed by a poor paint and assembly job…

*However, on this point, Morgan and I agree totally. I’ve proxied plenty of MK and other cliccies, but none with the blank-eyed stare of some of the atrocious paint jobs.

*I’ve been in turns excited and disappointed on the long wait. You’ll forgive me if I remain quietly patient.

*My fellow owners of our store have decided to get behind Dystopian Wars in a big way; I could really enjoy trying to counter with this in my small, personal way.

Doug

Sorry, make ‘If I can fob it off on someone else…’ ‘Unless I can fob off on someone else to paint’.

Doug

Philius Fog – it’s a little premature to start a big campaign without the box set ready to sell. Closer to dates, I’d expect more activity. In the meantime, welcome aboard!

W.

@ Konteradmiral: Oh, I thought this was coming out next month? Oh man, more waiting. I feel sorry for people who’ve known about this game longer than I have ;P Thanks for the welcome, sir. Most happy to be aboard!

@ The_Beast: As a store owner, was it surprising to see how successful Dystopian Wars is, or could you see it coming?

I’m personally amazed. It can only mean good things for the world of steampunk minis in general, and hopefully that means Leviathans will have similar success on launch.

Made front page of BBG! http://boardgamegeek.com/image/956636/leviathans Hope you don’t mind me posting the images there

Philius Fog: Concerning the visual development, it’s still somewhat up in the air exactly how that will work. But I do fully expect that if the game is a true success and gets many years of life out of it, that a ‘next generation’ of leviathans will develop during the Great War, and they could look substantial different.

And as Konteradmiral, K.u.K. pointed out, it’s not coming out next month…while we’re making fantastic process finally resolving all the issues, we’re not quit there yet, so we don’t have a release date yet. As we get a little closer we’ll ramp up the blitzkrieg of letting people know it’s coming (i.e. I’ve spent the last two years establishing a small but firm on-line presence…we’ll build off of that shortly, while starting to let retailers know of cool ‘buy-in’ features through distribution channels, and so on).

The_Beast: Concerning the pre-paints, ultimately we don’t yet know…we’re literally right in the midst of it now…but my goal is to have the light pre-paints be of the quality of AT43/Dust Tactics…both of which I personally feel have the best pre-painted/pre-assembled miniatures on the market. Finally holding the miniatures in my hand (a little misty-eyed…), they absolutely hold up detail to detail to those games…now just need to finalize how the painting will be done with the manufacturer.

As for Dystopian Wars, I’ve been following it since it was first announced last year (for obvious reasons ). I finally had a chance to actually see the miniatures and the rulebook at a game store over the weekend…and it looks very cool.

I’ve always been a big believer in ‘there’s plenty of room in the pond.’ A game will carve out a niche if it can…if not, then something didn’t work out just right, so try again. So I’m glad to see another steampunk-style miniatures game on the market…just brings more awareness to this style of universe. Would I have liked to come out first…of course. But the two universe/style of play/purchasing style are very, very different, so I believe they’ll absolutely help more than hurt each other in the long run.

Tim P: Awesome! And by all means, post images and photos and everything off of this website as far and as wide as you can. A grass roots campaign of you guys spreading the word and sharing data is going to do nothing but help the line…thanks!!!

So when are you going to send me a mini Randall? I have been on this boat since day one, time for you to give me a little gamer lovin’ if you know what I mean.

For anyone complaining about waiting, get in line… behind me, with the exception of Randall and worktroll of course. I’ve been waiting for this game since 2008 since I saw this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXk0y0E7zfk

2 years and 8 months ago

waiting time is worse than waiting for your girl friend to put out. =/

ahhaha…oh…my…head…I’d forgotten I even did that video…and yeah, it has been a long, long haul, guys…but I believe the wait will be well worth it.

As for a mini…mmm…maybe I should run some type of competition on the site and the winner gets a free test shot mini dropped out of the mail at him?

Thoughts? And if so, what should the contest be?

How about a scenario design contest of some sort?

Absolutely love the game, mini’s and everything about it (especially the excerpts and story line), it truly gets you into the game without much effort.

Regarding the contest not sure it would be fair to give “new” comers like me a shot at a mini.

Maybe a vote on the people who have been waiting/wanting the longest.

Perhaps replacement figures could me made available for mail-order purchase not pre-painted? For those who object to such things [not me].

Man here I am on my knees begging you to not let these beautiful models be sold pre-painted. There are very few lines of warship wargaming miniatures that aren’t sold pre-painted and more than I can count that are. If you must insist on pre-paints, than perhaps research into thinner paints that are effortlessly painted over by Reaper or GW paints?

Apart from the growing controversy over that, I absolutely adore these miniatures. I can finally put my Heroscape hex-tiles to use. Question though; will there only be the one type of design per class of ship or will there be different designs depending on the faction? I can easily understand if there’s only the one type of design (After all, the ships IRL back then looked almost the same).